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It's a pity you can't choose your neighbors.

Most of the houses in our neighborhood were built in the first part of the 20-est century and have well established gardens with large, beautiful trees. It's a pity that when a house passes to a new owner the first thing they do is demolish the garden. So, when we heard the sound of a chainsaw early this morning the first thing we did was checking where the damage was being done today. Looking from my 1st floor window, I noticed that the large conifer that dominates the view looked slightly different. It had lost some of its lower branches.

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The next thing I noticed was that someone was climbing that tree and then large branches started to tumble down. Within half an hour my old friend was no more.
I have known that tree for nearly 40 years. So, I'm feeling realy sad about this.

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In short, NOT a good start of the week.


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no. just no.

can't understand why people do this. Related to orcs they are.

"no. just no."
That was my reaction. But, as other people pointed out, the tree may have been diseased. In that case we would have felt better if the neighbors had explained to us beforehand what was going to happen and why.

that was my thought, as well, but....when I looked at your pictures, it looked perfectly healthy.

I guess you will not ever know, but it'll probably tell you a lot when you find out what sort of neighbors they are in other respects.....

I hope they are only the sort that cut down a diseased tree........

oh! btw, don't know if i gave you a pre-show holler or not, but TORN interviewed me yesterday re "The Road, Taken". You can see that here, if you are interested: https://www.facebook.com/TORnBookClub/


I saw this tweet from TORn bookclub, yesterday: "Join us at 12pm PST at http://theonering.net/live to discuss 'The Road, Taken' a great collection of Tolkienesque poems". So, I retweeted that to my followers and added the link to the olorisbookshop website. As I can't listen "live" over here, I'm glad you gave me the facebook link. I'll check it out tomorrow. Tonight I'm going to a lecture of the scientist who wrote "Chimpanzee Politics" (Frans de Waal). That book helped me through many frustrating faculty meetings, so I'm looking forward to his talk.

oh, that sounds interesting. Enjoy! (we did get a 'call in' from a young woman that I believe lives in Hungary.....but she told me later that it was after midnight there....

believe me, i was asleep long before midnight. Hope you enjoy the show!

I just watched TORN episode. So many interesting points brought up by you, John and Josh, the interviewer. I'll have to watch it again. One thing that struck me is that you had to avoid all names for copyright reasons. It's strange that I didn't notice that while reading the poems! It was usually so clear who was speaking.
OTOH it's a pity you couldn't use the names of people and places because Tolkien is THE master of naming. I was looking at his maps again today and was struck by how evocative his place names are. Just consider "Nen Hithoel"; you nearly don't need the description of that pale, quiet lake once you know its name.
BTW, it was lovely to see you "for real".

oh, so very glad you were able to watch the show!

Yes, any naming would / could have brought instant action from the Estate (or use of dates, etc).

But i am really, really chuffed that you didn't even notice the lack of names, etc, that is was perfectly clear who was speaking. I'm so glad, because i worked terribly hard to make it all ok after the poems had the proper nouns (etc) expunged.

Tolkien is, simply, the master of language. I've tried for years to figure out exactly how he does what he does (because it really does seem simple), to no avail. And yuo are correct: 'Nen Hithoel".....you don't need the description.....or....rather, when you read the description, you say (in a stilled voice): "of course". And...perhaps, "thank you". (I always thank the Prof. He's so praiseworthy!)

Re seeing me for real.....well, for the first couple of minutes, i kept looking at the monitor...then i couldn't stand it any longer, because of course, i cuold see myself. And all the things that are 'ugh' about me. But of course, we are all quite critical of ourselves.

Glad to be able to 'meet' you at last! (the red hair.....btw....i am really a blonde. I just got....bored)


Oh, that's terrible! I don't understand why people do that to healthy trees.

I was really upset about it but the tree might have become unsafe.

Sorry you've lost an old friend of the tree variety.

Are you sure it wasn't diseased, though? We had three large pines in our backyard, but had to take one down because it was diseased, so we were sad, but had no better option.

You're right, it's possible that the tree was diseased although it still looked quite healthy. But it was old, perhaps 100 years old and that might have made it unsafe so near to the house. This spring we had a huge storm with lots of fallen trees. That made people wary.

That's how we discovered it was diseased. A large branch came down in one storm and we thought it still might be OK, but about a year later the top third of the tree came down and we knew it was time (maybe beyond time). We were fortunate that even the piece that hit our shed didn't cause damage, but if the whole tree had come down it could have done serious damage to our house or possibly someone else's depending on how it fell.

Now, your new neighbors might not have had that reason, but it's possible that there was good reason to do it, sad as it was to see it go. We lost both the large elms on our tree lawn in the front in consecutive years when the city discovered they had Dutch Elm Disease. I miss the large trees, but we have different (smaller) ones out there now (it's the city who deals with the ones there, but we got to choose the types of our new trees).

These large trees are both so valuable and so vulnerable. Last year a large tree was blown down in my dad's garden, ruining his neighbor's new garden shed. So, I agree that caution is needed.
How nice that the city let you choose the trees for the front of your house.

I can never understand why some people are so eager to chop down beautiful trees. Ok, occasionally it's for a legitimate reason but not often. I can really empathise with you over this. Our next door neighbours had a most beautiful conifer in their garden, not sure what sort but very unusual. I Couldn't believe it when I saw it swaying about one day and sure enough it was being massacred. I felt quite bereft.

"bereft" that's the right word. I know exactly how you felt about that beautiful, unusual conifer.
What I don't understand is that people buy a house with a lovely garden and then cut the trees down, root the plants up and pave it over. Why didn't they buy an appartment in the first place?

I've stopped looking out of my window. It'll take months to get used to the new profile of my horizon.

I'm so very sorry. I know the feeling all too well as my neighbours destroyed my holly tree under the pretext of pruning it, which was all I consented to. Trees are old friends so I truly feel for you. They are a loss to everyone.

I've read your posts about the holly tree. That was inexcusable of your neighbours.
Over the past few years three beautiful, large trees have disappeared from my window-view, a lovely prunus, a very striking weeping birch and now this conifer. The view has now become quite dull.

I'm so sorry. I can still see some nice trees across the road from me and have some in my garden.

I feel exactly the same way about trees; unless they are undermining the foundations of a house I can't see why people have to cut them down.

The same thing happened when some neighbours moved in next-door-but-one to us. They had a beautiful tree cut down and I really miss it... :-(

"They had a beautiful tree cut down and I really miss it."
That's how I felt about all THREE trees that were cut down by various neighbours over the past few years. The first one was a lovely Prunus that they cut down while it was flowering. I was in tears. The second a very striking weeping birch and now this conifer. The view from my window has become very dull. :-(

Three trees cut down! That truly is vandalism :-(

Some people seem not to care at all about trees and yet to me they are beautiful living things which shouldn't just be destroyed without good reason.

Jane, I couldn't agree more!

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